Last Updated on December 10, 2023 by Team Spinfuel

UPDATE on Martin Giles and Bull Smoke: We posted TWO emails, including the last one I wrote to Giles of Bull Smoke, the one he claims was basically extortion. Make up your own minds about who’s doing what to whom. – Thank you – John Manzione (Bull Smoke Reviews)

Bull Smoke ScamWe just received word that late yesterday the owner of Bull Smoke Reviews eCigarettes was still up to his tricks of trying to destroy Spinfuel eCigs Magazine. Bull Smoke Reviews This time, making it more personal then ever.

“So, as a gesture (and I was cordial with John all along, requesting to talk like men, discuss what was going on, etc, but he remained a coward behind his keyboard) I sent him an email as I FOUND HIS SON.

Yeah, I found him allright, he was arrested just last week for cocaine possession in Texas. Instead of saying “thanks” he posted my email on his “magazine.” Gee, some thanks I get.” – Martin Giles

Or This one from Martin Giles of Bull Smoke:

“guess the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Maybe if John Manzione wasn’t a deadbeat Dad his son wouldn’t be out sniffing coke and getting arrested. These people aren’t people to do business with, and my company sent them products, without hesitation, so he could grow his “magazine.”

It’s too bad he had to steal the product, assume we were going to pay him for advertising, bash our brand, and then get upset when we pointed out his son was sniffing coke.” – Martin Giles

The point of all this? 

The owner of Bull Smoke Reviews doesn’t like the review we posted about his tasteless, overly expensive Chinese eLiquid-filled eCigarettes. Bull Smoke Reviews

As we release more emails in their original form we will keep you posted. To start things off, let’s start with my email to Giles where I express my concern about his review and the giveaway, this could clear things up for some of you after you read the rest of this new batch of libelous bullshit.

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This is the email where I tell Martin Giles of Bull Smoke that the review isn’t going to be a positive one. His response has been to threaten and go on the attack. Click to see the original 1 to 1 size

 This is the LAST email I sent to Martin Giles:

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This is the last email I sent to Martin Giles where I give him 3 options on how to proceed. Click the image to see the full size.

 

 

Conclusion?

In conclusion, the ongoing conflict involving Martin Giles and Bull Smoke, characterized by its particularly aggressive and unpleasant nature, highlights a larger issue within the realm of business and public discourse. The tactics employed by Giles, though undoubtedly effective in drawing attention, raise serious concerns about the ethical boundaries of corporate competition and public communication.

As observers and participants in this evolving narrative, it is crucial to consider the long-term implications of such strategies, not only for the individuals and companies directly involved but also for the broader business community and societal norms.

Looking ahead, it is hoped that this situation will encourage a more constructive and respectful approach to disagreement and competition, fostering an environment where progress and innovation are achieved through collaboration and mutual respect, rather than through hostility and degradation.

The resolution of this dispute could set a precedent, influencing how future conflicts are navigated in the increasingly interconnected and public world of business.

In summing up the contentious saga involving Martin Giles and Bull Smoke, it’s evident that this episode is not just an isolated incident but a reflection of broader trends in corporate behavior and public engagement.

Giles’s approach, marked by its intensity and unpleasantness, not only challenges the ethical standards of business rivalry but also poses significant questions about the role of public communication in shaping corporate identities and consumer perceptions.

The implications of such aggressive tactics extend far beyond the immediate parties involved. They signal a shift in the landscape of business conduct, where the lines between vigorous competition and outright hostility are increasingly blurred.

This trend, if left unchecked, risks cultivating an environment where respect and ethical considerations take a back seat to short-term gains and sensationalism. Such a shift would not only harm the reputations of the companies involved but could also erode public trust in corporate institutions as a whole.

Furthermore, this situation underscores the need for a more responsible and conscientious approach to public discourse, particularly in the realm of business. It invites a reevaluation of how conflicts are managed and resolved, advocating for strategies that prioritize dialogue, mutual understanding, and respect over confrontation and disparagement.

The resolution of this specific conflict could thus serve as a catalyst for change, inspiring businesses to adopt more ethical practices in their communications and competitive strategies.

As we move forward, the hope is that the resolution of the dispute between Martin Giles and Bull Smoke, and other scam brands of e-cigarettes, will not only mend the immediate rifts but also pave the way for a more collaborative and respectful business environment.

Such an outcome would benefit not only the companies directly involved but also set a positive example for the entire business community, promoting a culture where success is measured not just by market dominance, but by the ability to innovate, collaborate, and maintain integrity in the face of competition.

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